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KU+GmM
No.331
/sa/ is not a very happening thread so I wish to change this. I'll post aphorisms (selected and random) everyday.
This first one is the braintwister from sickness unto death by Kierkegaard. About how the self relates to the divine(infinitude) and to itself.
KU+GmM
No.332
>>331(OP)
the kierkegaard one is less of an aphorism than this.
Beyond good and evil by Friedrich nietzsche, he laments how the roll of food(and its several types) on the temperament of the individual is an often times ignored aspect of cooking.
xSJRG6
No.340
>>331(OP)
> Kierkegaard
Often I feel these authors are being wordy for the sake of being wordy. Kierkegaard is often a culprit.
Or maybe I'm just stupid but perhaps that's his "trick". In any case, I like authors like picrel more, that both write beautifully and are easy to follow.
KU+GmM
No.342
>>340
camus? he did win a nobel prize for it.
As for Kierkegaard? that is simply his danish-ness.
No other nations authors write as eloquently as the franks. Nietzsche understood this well and positioned his style closely with the french -- and it was the some of the most beautiful prose I've read.
xSJRG6
No.343
KU+GmM
No.344
>>343
I haven't read sartre yet, reading erotism by bataille(a frenchie) and his writing style is quite similar to mine unironically. I like the bit of scientific hocus-pocus he performs to set up his theses.
VudhK/
No.345
>>331(OP)
Say, did reading Kierkegaard bring you to the good side? Read his shit about two years ago (Fear and Trembling, to be specific) because I wrote an assignment for a 4 CGPA dude I know for some money. Turned my life around and turned me Christian. Not overnight, but a few things clicked
VudhK/
No.346
>>345
P.S. I don't mean to derail your thread into a religious flame war. Just want to hear about if your thoughts on Christianity changed (for better or for worse) or remained unchanged.
KU+GmM
No.347
>>345
No, not really. He is easily secularised(His philosophy is, much better with christianity in mind and a secularised kierkegaard is akin to a cirmcumscised child, but I digress), which is why his influence far outstrips that of, say aquinas(but really any other theologians). It didn't make Camus, a christian, neither satre, nor foucalt. I haven't finished sickness unto death(yet) but its on hiatus until I finish erotism by bataille and a few more of his other works.
The most important aspect(and perhaps the only important aspect) of this is that I've read Nietzsche prior hand and that is the strongest antidote against christianity in particular and religion in general. I do find them to be similar, Kierkegaard albeit doe-eyed. I hold a lot of respect for him(K) from what I've read, and I only expect this to grow from when I finish either/or.
KU+GmM
No.348
>>346
I was indifferent to christianity prior to reading K and indifferent now. I like the symbolism and find its shadow in western philosophy to be, frankly, everpresent even in the brightest corners. (Hollingdale in particular, thought a lot of nietzsche's philosophy was influenced by his lutheran upbringing, try the introduction to sprach zarathustra)
VudhK/
No.349
>>347
>I do find them to be similar
Funny, I'd written a comparative study of the two for the assignment.
I no longer serially read philosophy (keyword: serial). I found myself driven to read more simply for the headrush of reading an eloquently constructed argument, to argue with it, and then argue with myself some more. It's a pretty worthless substitute for going out and causing trouble, which I also enjoy far more. Constantly playing games of reason also an attempt to reduce yourself to an abstraction. Human beings of flesh and bone need intuition, they need conviction. I am not a sum of axioms, I'm a sum of my experiences and flesh and bones and other real things. I think it doesn't help that over my time in uni I've grown to fucking hate academically wired thinking.
Sorry for being oblique, but this is the subtext to the question I asked.
>I was indifferent to christianity prior to reading K and indifferent now
Get around to Fear and Trembling whenever time permits. Not implying anything about how it'll affect you, just curious.
Next question, do you have any convictions about the world? I don't mean this in the academic sense (x had an influence on y, z falls apart in this way under an n-ian framework). Just any belief, so I can understand you better.
KU+GmM
No.350
>>349
>Next question, do you have any convictions about the world?
Everything is will to power, though prior to Nietzsche I believed the prerogative to beings was to be the 'most prominent in its environment', i.e. to be the master of nature. Its well enough that Nietzsche struck a chord with me, otherwise I'd think a lot like heraclitus.
Taking the will to power into consideration, some have actualised it into 'politics'(the term), I find this to be calling the limb(whom belongs to being) being in itself.
Which is why I find 'all art is political' to be a bit cringe. Its not untrue but I find this separation from the self(that is, the will) to a surrogate 'politics' much like how Christ's heaven('heaven is within us') turned into the Christian's heaven('heaven is beyond us').
I'd write more on my opinion of politics, tomorrow.
w5bKOz
No.351
>>350
Do you mind if I risk being rude?
KU+GmM
No.352
>>350
This dilution of will, into politics, is its own weakening. Because really, there exists only one 'good' belief -- Herrenmoral -- but with dilution, its shatters this clarity. (say, one beliefs could be assigned so-and-so, left wing or right wing -- this forces oneself to think within this 'basis' terms. To decide which 'ideology' is 'better' then becomes a matter of deciding whether it is correct to wear a glove on your foot, or a hat on your knees, the answer is of course, neither. This is why there are so many 'ideologies'; We are measuring the sun with a matchstick.)
KU+GmM
No.353
>>351
not really, I haven't formed by points very well.
KU+GmM
No.355
>>353
This is the issue really, I do think of something and commit pen to paper. Perhaps the initial reaction is agreeable, but then it really tarnishes, and I find myself unsatisfied at which point I am discouraged to write again. Philosophy isn’t really created like this, behind every idea are loads of notes, that led to its maturation. So I’d suppose not to take it too seriously. Its not really ‘it’.
VudhK/
No.356
>>353
I'm more interested in what follows. How does the separation of the self follow from holding all art to be political?
>>355
I'm not really asking you to entirely justify a position. Just explain a material position about the world, without using jargon that requires an entire book worth of elaboration.
4aWXcF
No.357
>>356
I do get what you mean after reading your last reply, but you can build your idea if you want nonetheless.
4aWXcF
No.358
>>357
Just to follow it up with more, how old are you, what's your vocation, and why the fuck do you use this website? What are your thoughts on Industrial Society and its Future, if you've read it? You can also ask me anything you like.
KeSfo2
No.359
>>352
In a roundabout way, this dilution of the will into "politics" reminded me of this text about how our impoverished symbol set/information technology is a very crude approximation or a dilution of actual communication, or at least the scope of it. Not sure if it's crisp enough to be an aphorism, but good read.
KeSfo2
No.360
>>359
These are the last two pages. Written by an anon on the EXITPROCESS zine.
KU+GmM
No.362
>>357
I'll have to read more theory
>>358
>how old are you?
I'm particularly careful with giving out personal information. I expect an intelligent anon to be able to mark me down within ~1000 individuals or so, if I am to give actual(but sparse) detail. This is what happened with motivanon, and well, I don't do it because of him, he simply justifies my case. If I do give out information, its contradictory at times.
I will say, I am on the younger side.
>vocation?
I wanted to be a mathematician. Will most likely end up being a statistician.
>why the fuck do you use this website?
there's a genuineness and homeliness to smaller forums. Bhach isn't one of them, but prolly one of the few forums where I can talk to my countrymen.
>What are your thoughts on Industrial Society and its Future
I've done the audiobook actually, I don't have much of an opinion on it. As for the future? either immortality is achieved and we are saved, or tfr catastrophe and we are wiped.
>You can also ask me anything you like
Why this thread?
VudhK/
No.364
>>362
>younger side
<21 or >21?
>Why this thread?
I haven't seriously used this (group of) site(s) in a few years. I just made a thread (>>/sa/272) and monitor it about every week, so I found this thread and replied to it because there's someone on this site who uses full sentences and checks on their own thread after posting it.
KU+GmM
No.365
>>364
<21
I started reading phil in my adolescence.
>because there's someone on this site who uses full sentences and checks on their own thread after posting it
kek, are the standards so low... check out the prog music and music threads in /ent/
VudhK/
No.375
>>365
Oh yeah, the music thread is unexpectedly good. Tried to make one a year or two ago, it never really took off.
I+ZTny
No.388
>>332
this is beyond retarded
OWLwTK
No.398
Infinite Jest on the most profound truths often being trite as fuck, explained through Alcoholics Anonymous. This book in the most oblique way possible reminded me to trust common sense above all.
KU+GmM
No.414
>>398
I remember trying the audiobook and giving up one hour in because it was so long. I vaguely remember some hal incandenza guy sperging out over tennis and weed and like saying that he was a linguistic genius
HKbrvg
No.418
Some Neitzche’s SOVL stuff I’ve got
znsqkn
No.434
>>414
I don't think it's possible to read this as an audiobook. If there's Just One book that you Cannot listen to as an audiobook, it's Infinite Jest.
KU+GmM
No.492
I’ve been very busy, hopefully that ends in a bit
Interesting commentary on the transgressive nature of war w.r.t killing by bataille.
0Nkp5A
No.497
KU+GmM
No.498
>>497
Very loosely about ‘aphorisms’ and by ‘loosely’— not at all. I just post passages that I find interesting/worthy of being posted. Some of these can be understood fully within themselves and some require additional context.
KU+GmM
No.499
>>331(OP)
Interesting commentary on the women as erotic object( to be lusted after) and the profanation of it(to be ‘deflowered’(I like this phrase, it succinctly explains the whole matter)). Perhaps a glance into ugly bastard/NTR.
sEdgRX
No.500
KVSknX
No.501
KU+GmM
No.502
>>331(OP)
The psychoanalysis of some of the more disturbing crimes of the last century: unit 731 and the holocaust. The germans and the japanese considered themselves sovereign over the jews and the chinese respectively; they had reduced the existence of the jews to rats(the animal-thing) and the japanese had gone further and reduced the chinese to ‘timber’(the purest thing, that which was resultant of work). This belittling allowed the psyche to simultaneously bear and indulge in horrific acts to their umpteenth pleasure. No wonder the faculties of genocide were that fast-tracked as the Natsocs begun to lose; it is in the final days of an addict when he reaches the highest highs of his addictions, until the highest of highs possible: death(an overdose which results in death).
EikH/K
No.1078
Does anyone know what happened to pseuds other thread? I think it was on /sa/, don’t remember. Something about governance (I didn’t read it, too dense, but wanna read it now)
QJkXnf
No.1081
>>1078
https://bharatchan.com/board/sa/thread/1079 check this thread.
osFDQt
No.1082
>>1081
Thanks man.
osFDQt
No.1083
>>1081
Why were they deleted btw?
QJkXnf
No.1084
>>1083
Query script issues leading to certain threads around after 12 December to tail end of December getting deleted.
Most were backed up should be available in archives, without the media sadly.
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